STELLAR!
CHARLES SADLER OF STELLAR VECTOR
TALKS
TO
ROCKWiRED
ABOUT
THEiR FORTHCOMiNG CD FLOCK OF
COWARDS
NOT
BEiNG ABLE TO ESCAPE MUSiC
AND
USiNG SYNTHS TO GET A POiNT ACROSS
iNTERViEWED
BY BRiAN LUSH
It’s
all too easy to
understand the allure of eighties
nostalgia – especially in terms of music and culture. If you are my
age, it was
a time of innocence marked by the frills of new wave and ATARI
videogames.
Sure, you had that IRAN CONTRA thing going on but we had enough to keep
us
distracted in those pre-internet days. The Minnesota-based STELLAR
VECTOR tear
into that very synth heavy sound of the REAGAN-era with complete
abandon on
their debut CD FLOCK OF COWARDS but lead singer and keyboardist CHARLES
SADLER’s
immense musicality shows off a wide array of musical influences that go
beyond
surface nostalgia. Inspired by the political turmoil that got GEORGE W.
elected
a second time, SADLER set his observations to words, music and sound
and led
his band into the studio to make an album that looked back to a
friendlier time
yet had something to say about the fragility and instability of the
present. “We
wanted to create a retro album.” says SADLER. “Everybody jumped on this
ridiculous band wagon that the country was going to burn – especially
at my
workplace – and I was just irritated about it so I started writing
about other
instances where people have kind of fled from reason and kind of took
it from
there.”
ROCKWIRED
spoke with lead singer and keyboardist CHARLES
SADLER of STELLAR VECTOR over the phone. Here is how it went.
You guys have a
great
CD but I understand that it’s not quite out yet, right?
Right! Not until April 2nd. Since we’ve gotten
the advance copies, we’ve been selling it to our friends. At the
moment, we’re
just sitting on a box of copies.
What’s going on
inside
your head with the impeding release of the album?
It’s a weird time to be in this sort of holding pattern.
It’s cold in Minnesota
at the moment. It’s snowing. It’s like the perfect analogy for where we
are at
with the band right now. We’re trapped inside and we can’t go anywhere
but you
really want to. It requires a lot of patience that I’m not sure that I
or any
musicians really have. This CD has honestly had the longest production
cycle
that I’ve ever been involved in. I think that we started recording in
July and
the CD didn’t get finished until about October or maybe even late
November. It
was a lot of sitting on hands and hoping that the people that you are
entrusting with your work are doing what they promised. I go back and
listen to
it and I can actually enjoy it for the first time. I don’t feel like I
need to
critique it anymore. It’s enjoyable for me.
I love the name
of
the band! STELLAR VECTOR sounds like an early eighties videogame.
Yes. That was kind of the idea. I’m a big fan of the old school
VECTOR ARCADE games like ASTEROIDS and MAJOR HAVOC which was an ATARI
game.
That was my all-time favorite. The graphics weren’t all that big but it
was a
challenge that never ended. It never had to end. Guys would spend forty
to
seventy two hours on one game.
That era of video
games also coincides with early MTV and bands like FLOCK OF SEAGULLS
and every
other cool new wave band that was on constant rotation. Your band
brings a lot
of things back to me.
We wanted to create a retro album and I think that the name
was totally apropos. I wrote that album around the time of the BUSH and
KERRY
voting process when we were getting constantly bombarded with
ridiculous
notions of how KERRY was going to make the country a communist society
– like
one president could do that. All of these tiny ridiculous jabs to get
people to
vote for KERRY were ridiculous. There were plenty of reasons to not
vote for
BUSH. There were perfectly legitimate reasons to not vote for either
side as
well. It all comes down to personal choice. Everybody jumped on this
ridiculous
band wagon that the country was going to burn – especially at my
workplace –
and I was just irritated about it so I started writing about other
instances
where people have kind of fled from reason and kind of took it from
there. The
album was sounding more and more like an eighties album so we chose
that name
to kind of mirror A FLOCK OF SEAGULLS. When you say the name of that
band, all
that anyone remembers is eighties hair and that eighties sound. That is
what
they remember. Some people remember the song and some people remember
more than
one song but mostly they remember the hair and the clothes.
Please don’t hate
me
for having brought up FLOCK OF SEAGULLS.
Oh no, that was an intentional thing on our part. It was a
deliberate attempt by us to get people to associate our sound with that
genre.
The fact that you brought it up is fine.
Talk about the
genesis of the band.
The genesis of the band would have to be the PETER GABRIEL
era. That is the area of music where we are heavily influenced. My dad
listened
to GENESIS records probably up until the time that I was seventeen.
DUKE was
his favorite and I wasn’t much of a fan of PHIL COLLINS although he is
a very
talented guy. I just could not get it. It’s a weird thing for me. He’s
written
some amazing songs but it is usually hit or miss for me. That is kind
of the
curse of pop music. They like to keep their music tepid and
occasionally, there
will be poetry that stands out and grabs me and that is what I connect
with but
for the most part, it’s pretty mundane and repetitive. If it gets too
repetitive, I kind of tune out. But
PETER GABRIEL always captured my imagination. His albums always had a
light
side and a dark side. There was always a double edge to every album
that he was
ever involved with.
Talk about your
band
mates. Who are they and what do you think each of them brings to the
table both
creatively and personality-wise that makes it all work.
JONATHAN FORD is the rhythm guitarist and producer. He is –
for the lack of a better word – my shit filter. I write endless amounts
of
songs and I just bounce them off of him and he decides if the song is
“worthy”
to work on. Personality-wise, he is the cool calm collected guy that
keeps
everything under peaceful control. STEVEN AHONEN – our drummer – is the
youngest member of the band and the most chaotic and you have MIKE
JOHNSON who
is our bass player who is definitely the reason why we have those
seventies
influences because he’s really into that seventies nostalgia. He wears
jeans,
t-shirts and leather jackets. He’s
got a
real sarcastic, straight-faced humor about him. KEVIN HAHN is our lead
guitarist. He is a grunge enthusiast. He is really big into PEARL JAM
and
NIRVANA. And then you have me.
Talk about what
drew
you to music in the beginning.
I was kind of raised to be a musician. From the age of six
to eighteen I had piano lessons and music theory sometimes from
professors from
the UNIVERSITY
OF MINNESOTA
and sometimes
from private instructors. My dad tunes pianos and that is my life. I
was raised
on music for pretty much my entire life. I joined the Navy for a four
year
stint to try to escape it and realized that I was missing it. So I
returned.
How does
songwriting
happen for you?
I always write songs. Basically, I find myself humming a
melody or I’ll hear a rhythm as I’m casually walking down the street or
as I’m
waiting for a bus. It’ll kind of get louder and louder until I write
it. I
usually start with the piano and kind of create pockets of music and
then put
it together as we start deciding what kind of song we want to write.
From the album,
what
songs stand out for you the most and why?
The first track WILL SANS FEAR and SKIPPING STONE which is
the second. He reason for that is because those are the two songs that
I never
imagined would turn out the way that they did. For m, WILL SANS FEAR
started
out as a waltz experiment but I kind of gone awry and gave up on it. My
guitarist JONATHAN kept me at it. SKIPPING STONE was an attempt at a
ballad
gone awry. Again, JONATHAN just kept me at it. For me, those two songs
stand
out because they are examples of me wanting to give up but overcoming
an
obstacle and following it through to completion.
The music is
pretty
synth heavy. When you playing live, how easy or difficult is it to
transfer the
sound that you have on disc to a live situation?
I use all external synths. I don’t use software. It all
depends on the size of the stage that we are on. If we have a big
enough stage,
I bring those things with me and we usually have what is called a MIDI sequencer to play back the
stuff that I can’t do
with my own two hands. If the stage isn’t big enough, we use the magic
of the
computer to make the sound happen.
Describe how
people
have reacted to the band in a live situation.
It’s been positive. People tend o tell us what we sound like
based on the stuff that they like as opposed to what they think we
liked. I
hear interesting comparisons to bands that I’ve heard of but had never
gotten
attached to, to bands that I haven’t heard of before and it’s been an
experience for me. I’ve learned about different and interesting genres
and
stuff. It’s been a cool ride in that way. We rarely see a room empty.
It would be
interesting to see some sort of visual component to go along with it.
What are
your thoughts?
If we had to do music videos for this album, I think we
would try to find RICHARD KERN, if you’re familiar with him.
No, who is he?
RICHARD KERN did a lot of weird videos for THE CURE and he
did GIRLS ON FILM for DURAN DURAN. They are completely bizarre and from
the
eighties. On live stage we’ve played with the idea of going with a
light show.
We are going to stay away from the idea of video projection because my
personal
experience with video projection is that it distracts from what is
going on
onstage because they focus on the screen instead of our performance. I
tend to
use a lot of props and do tricks and techniques to keep the live show
interesting. I wouldn’t want projections to be a substitute for that.
What would you like
someone to come away with after they’ve heard this CD?
I would want them to come away feeling like they’ve
learned something about themselves as I have learned about myself
writing about
all of the little tiny events I’ve gone through in my life. It’s the
first
album that I had ever written where I’d had such a clear social
message. I’ve
always written about my observations about how my friends around me
acted and
this is the first direct –ultimately direct – approach and it’s been a
challenge figuring out how to word things so that it doesn’t feel so
directed.
I think that if we wrote it in the nineties and it was still an angry
culture
that we could’ve gotten away with something a little more directed –
more so
than this release, but I want to sell a record so I don’t want to scare
people
away.