Typically,
a band that has only been together for a year doesn't have a whole lot
to offer in the way of history but INNASTATE is a band with a past. The
band's founder ADRIAN WALL - a world renowned Jemez Pueblo sculptor -
first flexed his musical muscle as the bass player of the
band RED EARTH. During RED EARTH's tenure the band in almost
single-handedly electrified their local Albuquerque scene and even
generated a buzz throughout Indian Country with a sound that combined
the groove of reggae and ska with the alternative rock posturing that
was all the rage in the mid
to late-nineties. After spending years away from music making WALL
teamed with bassist and co-songwriter RYLAN KABOTIE and drummer
LAWRENCE BAILON to form INNASTATE and the results of their labor in the
studio can be heard on their self-titled EP. Not surprisingly WALL's
inclination for that irresistible reggae groove is still as strong as
ever but it's tempered by lyrics that are reflective and a delivery
that is more earnest than RED EARTH's war whoop. JIR ANDERSON on lead
guitar adds a roots rock touch to this very promising debut.
ROCKWIRED had a chance to speak with ADRIAN WALL regarding the bands
debut EP. Here is how the interview went.
INNASTATE'S
self titled debut EP is here right now isn't it?
It'll
be here this week.
So
talk what's all going through you head with this new music that is
about to get it's big release.
I
think we're most excited about getting this thing out into the world.
We've been playing a lot live to some small audiences here and there
but right now we're really looking forward to sharing these songs
with the greater community of reggae and rock fans. And music fans
in general.
And
talk the evolution of this project. How did it all get off the
ground. I remember you from the band RED EARTH and it's been a while
since there ha been any significant output from them. How did this
new project get started?
It's
been a few years in the making. It kind of emerged from out of a
group that I was with called TWIN RIVERS and my friend ED KABOTIE and
his son RYLAN KABOTIE played with me in that band. Late in life I
decided to go to college and while I was there I didn't play any
music. I just concentrated on studying but that last semester of
school I was like "I need to start playing again!" I called
up RYLAN - the young man from TWIN RIVERS - and I asked him if he was
interested in doing some music. So we started writing and a month or
so later we brought in a drummer and we worked all summer long and
booked some shows for the following fall and that was how it started.
I've always had this desire to play reggae music and with this
project it's just worked out really well. RYLAN's influences are a
lot broader than mine. He's a collector of music and he has a broad
range of influences and I think he is a rocker at heart with a love
for reggae and I think that influence comes through in our music as
well.
And
I'm not trying to say anything with this next question but I've seen
a picture of you guys and it looks like the makeup of that band is
pretty pan-generational.
Absolutely. RYLAN is twenty-one years old. I'm forty-five and the
guitar player
we have now is around forty years old. The music transcends all of
that. My role in this band - with all of the experience that I've
had in other bands like RED EARTH and TWIN RIVERS - is that i can be
a coach for these guys in some ways. as far as the business model
for the band and how to promote. I've pretty much taught them
everything i know and they are up and running with it at this point.
It's kind of neat to be able to share the stage with such youthful
energy. It reminds me of when I firs started playing music when
there were no rules and anything went. I really missed that. Sometimes
I've played with very mature musicians and there are so
many rules and it sucks a lot of the fun out of it. But INNASTATE
is a lot of fun because of the youthful energy and that approach to
making music where it's about being in the moment and creating fun
and meaningful music.
We're
living in an age where the EP is a legitimate release. For a long
time an EP didn't get you anywhere but nowadays it's the preferred
mode of getting the music out there so with that being said is this
new EP a standalone release or is it a sampling of a larger album to
come?
That's
a hard question to answer. This here is the music that we started
with. These were the firs songs that we developed over the last year
The band is only a year old basically. We started playing last
February and now it's April. Our goal is put together a bigger
collection of music to share but we really needed to put something
out there that was well done. And you're right! I think the way the
world works today with the internet access and deadlines it seems
like music comes and goes pretty quickly these days. We do see a lot
of shorter collections of music because of that. It's also more
affordable to release a five or six song EP but our goal is to get
into the recording studio by Fall and record at least a twelve song
collection. We have the music. It's just a question of getting it
together.
Who
helped put this EP together for you guys?
It's
pretty much self-produced. We took a very interesting approach to
recording this one. We actually went into my home studio and
recorded everything and worked out all of the kinks and got
everything tight and then we went into FROGVILLE STUDIOS in Santa Fe.
BILL PALMER definitely helped us in producing the album with his
ideas and his outboard gear. He helped us quite a bit but as far as
the songwriting is concerned - that was all INNASTATE. RYLAN is the
bassist in the band and kind of served at the executive producer of
the project. He put it all together and made sure that everything
was buttoned up for us. Working with BILL PALMER was an amazing
experience for us. We really wanted to put out a really good
recording and we felt it was very important to present the band's
professionalism and really show people what we could do. We're not
beyond asking for help. We're really happy that we used BILL.
Describe
the songwriting process between you and RYLAN. How do you guys go
about it?
We
definitely have a unique way of working. Sometimes I'll write song
and work it out and then present it tot the band. RYLAN's approach
is similar. He's more of an idea guy. He'll bring in an idea and
we'll work it out as a band in the rehearsal studio. I try to go for
more of a complete idea before I bring it forward to to the band. We
work things out in a lot of different ways. For the most part we
just hash things out in a rehearsal studio once we have the ideas.
We're not the kind of band that writes a song every ten minutes. One
of the things that we try to do as much as possible is get into the
home studio and record everything and figure out what's working and
what's not working. We're also always rehashing songs. We've got
some songs that we started with that we are just starting to revisit
now.
And
talk about what got you into music making in the first place.
When
I was growing up there were no musicians in my family but I've always
been attracted to music. I remember being fourteen and getting my
first guitar and learning some BEATLES songs. It was a great
experience but I didn't really have any guidance. It wasn't until I
met RYLAN's father ED KABOTIE. He's a drummer and we meshed and I
started playing bass with him. That was where i learned the
importance of practicing and taking things more seriously and that if
you want to get somewhere you really have to work hard. ED really
taught me how to get form point A to point B as a musician. Once I
had that foundation I just started writing. Those early RED EARTH
days were like free-for-all jam sessions. If you listen to the early
RED EARTH stuff it's a little bit of everything. There were no rules
so we could do whatever we wanted to do. Having those tools that ED
gave me allowed me to express myself. I'm a creative person. I'm a
professional artist. I'm a sculptor, jeweler and I work across
several materials and mediums and one of them is music.
And
so far how is this experience with INNASTATE different from the RED
EARTH experience?
It's
definitely very different. I have a lot more experience now as far
as marketing and as far as what I want personally out of the band. I'm
older now and I have this other life. It feels like I can take
things a little slower now and take my time and do things right like
we did with this new EP. Working with younger peoples in the band is
also very different. There is a different dynamics involved. It's
very exciting for me and I'm learning so much from these younger
people and the music that they're in to. The things that are
influencing the younger generation are really amazing. I'm learning
a lot form the whole experience. I still get to hang out with RED
EARTH guys. As a matter of fact we're doing a reunion concert this
Friday. That band is twenty years old now if you can believe it. We
all grew up together but eventually we all went our separate ways. It's
been five years since we've played. The dynamics of the two
bands are very different. Every band is different. They're just
relationships with other musicians is what they are.
Once
this EP is out there What do you hope that someone comes away with
after hearing it?
I'm
hoping that people realize our potential. Like
I said this is just an EP and this is just the beginning for us I
believe. We have a lot of potential and already people are realizing
that something is happening with us. We are booking shows like crazy
and out Summer is really filling up. We're trying to be smart about
it and pick and choose our battles and not just play anything that
comes our way. We've been fortunate to have opened for some National
acts. We've done four this month already. I really want people to
listen to this EP and really listen to the songs. I think we have
some very strong songs. As a live band we're pretty dynamic too.
Granted our sound is based in reggae its' not you basic roots reggae.
We have a lot of influences that come from the rock vein. It's
really good music. And I hope that people enjoy it.
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